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. the labor party -- i was speaking to rachel reeves earlier on, just because they've got their plans wrong. they've cut in the wrong areas, they're not thinking about the infrastructure growth that this country needs to get itself out of the mess. so let's see what it comes up with today. it's just a question of whether he can take it away from some departments and give it to others. of course, there's this whole rich versus poor debate also. the poor we're talking about are only so rich. for instance, taking it away. the free amount of money you can put into your pension before you get taxed on it. at the moment, that's 50,000 pounds. estimates are that it will go down to 30, 40,000 pounds. even if they put it down to 30,000 pounds, it's only going to raise around 8.1 billion pounds extra. when you consider total government spending and borrowing, that's a drop in the ocean. welfare is about 186 billion pounds. you can see the kind of numbers we're talking about. tinkering at the edges as well. there will be more money into education, into science, into infrastructure as well and he'll be
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